made up of former bush and clinton economic experts, that is why they said that the romney-ryan tax plan would in fact raise taxes on middle-class families with a child an average of $2,000 a year. $2,000 a year. by the way, every model looked at, from the american enterprise institute, says the same thing. folks, it is time to lift the burden of the middle class, not double down on the great recession that hit them. [applause] as a consequence of the great recession, family, middle class families lost $16 trillion in wealth, mostly in equity in their homes, they saw them evaporate, and their pension plans and their 401-k's. it is time for everybody to chip in, but we should not be surprised at their continued opposition to everyone chipping in. these are the folks who talked about 47% of the american people being unwilling to take responsibility. by the way, the congressman from wisconsin in his speech to "the spectator" said 47% of americans are these takers. i do not know who these people are they're talking about. the people of the neighborhood i grew up in, 82% pay their taxes

. they first blamed the youtube video. now they are blaming the romney- ryan ticket. we had the same position before the withdrawal. let's make sure we secure our gains. the vice-president was put in charge of those negotiations by president obama. he failed to get the agreement. that is what we were talking about. when it comes to our veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude. including your son. we also want to make sure that we do not lose the things we fought so hard to get. with respect to afghanistan, we agree with a 2014 transition. we want to make sure we are not projecting weakness abroad. this benghazi issue, it is indicative of a broader probm. what we're watching on our tv screens is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy. it is making the world more chaotic. >> i want to talk about, in the middle of the crisis, governor romney talked about apologies from the obama administration. was that appropriate in the middle of the crisis? >> on that same day, the obama administration was in that same position. they disavowed their own statement they put up earlier in the

difference. his running mate congressman ryan put forward a budget that reflects many of the principles gov. romney has talked about. it was not very detailed. this seems to be a trend. what it did do -- if you extrapolate it how much money we are talking about, you are looking at cutting education by 20%. when it comes to community colleges, we are seeing great work done out there all over the country because we have the opportunity to train people for jobs that exist right now. one thing i suspect we probably agree on is getting businesses to work with community colleges. >> do you agree? >> let me finish my point. they are partnering -- they are designing training programs and people who are going through them know there is a job waiting for them if they complete it. there requires some federal support. let me say one final example. when it comes to making college affordable, whether it is two- year or four-year, one thing i did is we were spending $60 million to banks and lenders as middlemen for the student loan program, even though they were guaranteed. there was no risk for the b

taxes on the wealthy to close that gap. the ryan budget which mitt romney endorsed, would have tremendously slashing e fax in a social programs and government spending. and cut taxes further. so, i think there still is a lot of a back and forth flip- floping. or strategic ambiguity in what mitt romney is saying. host: on our line for independents, bob. caller: i am informed voter. i spend 30 plus years in the consulting industry. i do not know how to create jobs. and certain people would have you believe it is possible. there are a number of people that have led to the current conditions. and i do not hear anybody talking about what is line to be done to alleviate those factors. i am going to give you examples. one is the banks, the availability of money. two is the confidence in the wall street. so many people got burned, who wants to take a chance on investing money. 3, oil. -- when competition was an increasing at a dramatic rate. and finally, industries. previously, there were always some industry that was in the vanguard, cell phones, high- tech revolution, auto industry,